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And I had heard just amazing things about what was then school on wheels.
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Now we're Bright Lane Learning.
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There's such a need in the community and I wish that we could provide this powerful one-on-one attention and support for every single student in Marion County.
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We know those one-on-one relationships are so important and just having one trusted adult who is checking in with a student building a relationship can be really powerful.
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It's really hard to learn your multiplication facts when your brain is processing trauma and you're not sure where you're going to sleep tonight or this week, or what the rules are at this new place that your family had to move into.
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Welcome to Homeward Indie, a bi-weekly conversation where we meet the people working to end homelessness in Indianapolis and hear their stories.
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I'm Elliott Zanz.
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And I'm Steve Barnhart.
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Welcome listeners.
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Today's guests are Karen Routt and Erin Herring-Switzer of Bright Lane Learning.
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If you have a special place in your heart for kids, particularly kids that are growing up in very difficult situations, then today's episode will be of special interest to you.
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This is a friendly reminder that the views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they belong to or represent.
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Karen and Erin from Bright Lane.
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Thank you so much for being a part of Homeward Indie.
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Thank you for having us, it's an honor to be here, Glad to be here.
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Great, I'm interested in hearing the story of Bright Lane Learning and maybe let's just start, and either one of you can go first, just to give our listeners a sense of what Bright Lane Learning is.
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Sure I can start.
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Bright Lane Learning is a not-for-profit and we have been in Indianapolis for 22 years now.
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When we first started 22 years ago, our founder, sally Bentley, who is still currently our CEO.
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She's been with us the entire time.
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She was a school social worker and the story is she was visiting her brother in Los Angeles and she happened upon an organization while she was in LA that was helping kids kind of after school who otherwise were kind of sitting on the street, not without anything to do.
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They welcomed them into a building and helped them get their homework done and she was like, wow, this is really cool.
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So when she came back to Indianapolis as an IPS school social worker, she started asking around at some of the shelters that took in families and kids and she said do you have programming for kids to help them while they're staying there with their families to get their homework done?
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Because a lot of the shelters at that time they had programming for parents and overwhelmingly her response that she got was no, we don't, but could you start tonight?
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And so that was.
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Uncovered a huge need.
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And so that very first year, sally and her mom and her best friend and her best friend's mom went into two different shelters in the evenings and gathered whichever students kindergarten through high school who were living there and brought them into the cafeteria or whatever space they found available and helped.
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I think that year they saw 50 kids and helped them, get their homework done, and so through the last 22 years we've grown quite a bit.
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And so we still run programs in the majority of the shelters in Indianapolis that shelter families and children and those are evening programs.
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But that part of our program has grown in that we do so much more case management.
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And we work with the parents.
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It's more than just teaching academic.
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Absolutely yeah.
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More than just getting their homework done, we talk with parents, we set goals, we ask them how is school going?
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Are all of your kids enrolled in school?
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Do you know what you're going to do next year when they go to high school?
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You're going to have to make a choice.
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Do you know about those choices?
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Or you've got preschool kids.
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Are they getting some support now?
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Are they getting ready for kindergarten?
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So we really wrap around the family and provide that educational support, whatever it might look like A very organic start that has blossomed.
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It has blossomed, yeah, yeah.
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And in addition to that we've also now in the last I don't know five to seven years, we've figured out that a lot of families who experience homelessness in Indianapolis don't necessarily go to the shelters, but they are that kind of hidden homeless that are often doubling up or staying in a motel and so, but often the kids are still going to school.
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So as an organization, we now go into schools.
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We're in 20 different schools, in addition to the shelters and community centers, so we run programs during the school day as well where we work with students in their building to.
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So the schools welcome you in to do that work.
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They do, they do.
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We have wonderful partners with all of our schools and often the school social worker or sometimes a guidance counselor or teacher, they refer students to us and then I always say we're in 20 different schools and we run 20 very different programs because we kind of fit what is happening in the school day.
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So I see we often get a classroom and we're pulling kids at various times throughout the day to give them some individual attention and just kind of a safety net, a little extra support While their home life may be.
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You know they're dealing with housing insecurity or you know they're transitioning.
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We know that sometimes those students absolutely need a little extra attention at school.
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And so we're there to to provide that.
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I want to talk a little bit more obviously about what your organization does, but I also want to hear what each of your roles are within the organization.
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Erin, what role do you play?
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Yeah, thanks.
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So I'm an education manager with Bright Lane Learning and my role is to work with some of our school partners and education support coordinators to ensure that we are providing the best support that we can for the students within the schools that are enrolled in programming with us.
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So I support our staff in helping to make sure that we are setting appropriate goals so that we can be impactful with our time, because we really only meet with students for a small portion of their day so we want to use that time really wisely.
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What would be a typical situation?
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I know Karen already alluded to.
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Each school might look a little different, but what would be a typical scenario?
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Yeah, so we really try to provide one-on-one support as often as we can.
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I know that that's not always feasible because we meet with a lot of students, so sometimes it's also small group support.
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We do that in a variety of ways, so our education support coordinators sometimes are pushing into classrooms to work with students to support them on projects or activities, so they actually almost become a part of the classroom, alongside the students that you're serving.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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We also pull students out and work with them one-on-one on goals that either the student has set for themselves or that our education support coordinators have helped identify that need working on.
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We also bring in volunteer tutors.
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Okay, I was wondering about that.
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So you have your own staff, but you supplement that with volunteers.
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Yeah, because we know those one-on-one relationships are so important and just having one trusted adult who is checking in with a student, building a relationship, can be really powerful.
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So we really strive for those one-on-one relationships any chance we can get.
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So we really rely heavily on our volunteer tutors to help build those relationships with students.
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I know that our listeners will be interested in that volunteer part.
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I happen to know myself even a next door neighbor who former teacher, who would have the skill set.
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What are you looking for in volunteers?
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What does a day of volunteering look like for those folks?
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Yeah, I mean, our volunteers come from all walks of life and we really Not necessarily teachers, yeah they don't have to have a teaching background.
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Again, we're really looking for those relationships and having that trusted adult that's working with a student.
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So when you are a volunteer, we do ask for a commitment of one hour a week and we try to get volunteers to commit to at least one semester so that there's not a lot of turnover and students do have that relationship that they can rely on.
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And that volunteer then would be assigned a school and then eventually student or students.
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How does that work?
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Yeah, so it looks a little bit differently depending on the site or if it's a school versus a community-based program.
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Okay.
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So if they're working within a school, they are assigned a shift of one hour a week and within the school day usually they get to work with the same student on a week-to-week basis.
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So they really are building that relationship, so they would be seeing one, that same student, an hour each week.
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Yep, but that looks a little bit different when you're talking about our community sites.
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Yes, so that I assume is evening as opposed to during the day.
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Those are evenings, some after school programs and some evening, and, depending on the site, volunteers may work with the same student on a week-to-week basis.
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But if it's an emergency site there's a lot of turnover.
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So they may have different students each week that they're working with.
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What grade students are you serving?
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K through 12.
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Okay, so it's the whole way through.
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Does it tend to lean more toward the younger or the older, or pretty even?
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You know we used to say that our average age was about an eight or nine year old, but recently we have really expanded and we're in several high schools right now.
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So it's starting to move that direction more yeah.
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And our volunteer manager here at our office.
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When she gets a new volunteer, who's applied?
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That's one of the things she asks Like do you have a preference?
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And it's funny.
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I always tell people that I get lots of people who want to.
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They definitely want to be a tutor, but do not give me high school math.
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Yeah, okay, because when you start getting the older students, then subject matter makes a difference.
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Absolutely yeah.
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We have tutors who are, you know, like prefer kindergarten through third grade, they want the younger kids.
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And then we have some that are like, definitely I need older kids, I you know.
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And so we really try to tailor fit our tutors to match with our students.
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We have, you know, I have some great tutors who have no problem with algebra two or geometry or whatever.
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They enjoy that.
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And so we right away were like, oh, we need to get them into a high school program because those tend to be the courses that trip up our kids.
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that they need a little extra work.
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So all of us, not just the kids Right, right, absolutely.
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I get it, I totally get it.
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But no matter the subject matter, no matter the grade level, I assume the relationship building is key.
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It is key it is, and we also, I wanted to mention we provide for our tutors a full curriculum of activities.
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We do have.
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I say that every school and community site is a little bit different because we are flexible and we make it fit, but we have some structure and some standards.
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Students generally start with a writing prompt.
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All of our students have a journal and that's just kind of to break the ice and get the students writing.
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And we also have a full curriculum of activities.
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They're game based but they're all based on the Indian academic standards.
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So they might be rolling dice but they're practicing their addition facts or their multiplication facts and so that is all provided.
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Our staff person at each location kind of sets up those activities so the volunteers don't have to come with things to do.
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It's all provided.
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We've got books, we've got the activities.
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Sometimes the classroom teachers will send things to work on, but it's a it's a chock full whatever 45 minutes or an hour or however long we get with that student, with plenty of things to do.
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So if I were a volunteer I think this is what you're saying there would be an on-site employee of Bright Lane.
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Learning to be my support.
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Yeah, those are our Education Support Coordinators, and we have an Education Support Coordinator at every site who is a Bright Lane Learning staff member, who really kind of outlines the tutoring hour and what the activities will be.
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So, as a volunteer, everything's set up and laid out for you when you arrive.
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You don't need to create activities.
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And one thing we tell our volunteers, too, is you don't you aren't expected to be an expert in any way.
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It's okay to tell students you know, I don't know.
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Let's find out together.
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That's a really valuable tool for students to see how you find the answers when you don't know, and going through that process of learning together.
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Yeah, and I can just imagine what builds relationship more than let's work on this together.
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Yeah yeah, I want to get to Karen.
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What is your role?
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I am one of the Education Directors here at Bright Lane and so I oversee all of our programs that happen within school buildings.
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And so we have another director who oversees all of the community-based programming.
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And then, kind of because of my background, before I came to Bright Lane I was a middle and high school math teacher, so I really work directly with our middle and high school programs and I'm in those buildings the most.
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But Aaron and I are part of a team and we have another manager on our team that we work together to make sure that all of those all 20 of our schools are running smoothly.
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What I think of there.
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You're kind of setting the curriculum.
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Is that correct?
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You're the one that's primarily involved in.
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Are we really meeting the standards that need to be met?
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Is that correct?
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Yes, yes.
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I work with our outcomes and our goals that we set as a program every year.
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I work with each of our school partners to kind of provide the data that they need and talk about like how.
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Like Aaron was talking about, we want to make sure that our time with students is impactful and valuable, and so I set those goals and make sure and kind of monitor the progress throughout the year to make sure.
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You had a small beginning that was very organic.
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You obviously have grown quite a bit.
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Are you continuing to grow or what?
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What?
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How do you see the future?
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We, you know we are actually, yes, we.
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We get calls on a weekly basis from schools that here, that we're in other schools, so word is kind of, you know, organically spread and we are looking at as an organization.
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What would this look like if we were to expand into a completely different community within maybe initially within Indiana, like where what's next, and so very early stages of our strategic planning.
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But yeah, it's exciting.
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What holds you back the most in terms of growth Is it.
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Are you meeting the need?
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That's there and we just need to wait till more students and schools are identified, or is it staff?
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Is it volunteer?
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What?
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What would you say?
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You know I I came on more recently, so there's been when I started.
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I think right when I started was kind of a big expansion until a lot of school sites and how long ago was that?
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Three years, three years ago, and one thing that just I kind of personally grapple with as we're growing and meeting more students is how do we still ensure that we are being impactful and really focused on meeting each student's needs?
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We don't want to get so big that we're leaving anyone behind.
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Yeah, so, just as we continue to grow, I think this year we we kind of stopped and didn't expand into any new locations because we wanted to really catch our breath and make sure that we are providing high quality programming for each student and meeting those needs and not growing too quickly.
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It's not just about the numbers, it's about yeah are you being effective?
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Because again, it goes back to those relationships and we want to make sure that that's number one and that we have the volunteer support that we need and the staff support to really provide high quality programming.
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What was lacking as you were growing fast.
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You know, I don't.
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I I don't think we ever got to such a quick clip that anything was lacking, but I do, you know it, it's.
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There's such a need in the community and I wish that we could provide this powerful one-on-one attention and support for every single student in Marion County and every single student in Indiana and everything you know.
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I know this is so good for kids, it's so good for kids and the word starts spreading and so I think just it's kind of balancing that, that desire.
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As an educator myself, I'm like every kid should have this, and especially our students who have been dealt a tough situation.
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You know they, we know from research that any sort of housing insecurity and losing your home is a traumatic event.
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It is trauma, and it's really hard to learn your multiplication facts when your brain is processing trauma yes and you're not sure where you're going to sleep tonight or this week, or what the rules are at this new place that your family had to move into or are you going to have the supplies you need?
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I can just imagine all kinds of things.
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So many things.
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We have families who've had to suddenly and quickly move and you don't always think to grab the kids colored pencils and their science project that they've been working on and then all of a sudden they're back at school.
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And so a lot of times you know it's interesting.
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When we were we're really getting going with our school site programming, we were looking at, okay, indiana academic standards and what are the kids need, and and some of our school principals and teachers came to us and said you know what, could you, rather than worrying about phonics and all the academics, some of our kindergartners, they don't know how to sit in a circle or they don't know how to the concept of hanging your coat up in your cubby.
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Kindergarten teachers were finding the kids coats like stuffed in the Lego table.
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Because just that idea of the process and this is the way it works.
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And I think about my own kids at home when you walk in from our garage.
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They each have a peg to hang their coat on, and that's the process and they learn at home.
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They learn and when your home is disrupted when you're living in a car.
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You don't have a peg.
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You don't have a peg, you don't have a peg, and so it.
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We had to really kind of back up and look at some of those, like okay, what does each one of our students need?
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You know, we even when I talk about when I first started 13 years ago at Bright Lane, I was a coordinator and I was working at a transitional location and I had a high school girl who came periodically in the evening to get some help with her algebra and she was pretty bright, like she knew, knew the material after we went through it and she did her homework, but she kept failing the test.
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She'd come back and she'd be like, no, I didn't pass it.
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And then I was like, well, could you bring me your test?
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I want to see what you did.
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And she said, well, no, the teacher said they won't release the test.
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We can look at them, but then they keep them so that you know for their security and whatever accountability.
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And so eventually it like dawned on me after this happened a few times, I'm like I need to get in touch with that teacher.
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And so I asked her.
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I said, could I email your teacher?
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What's your teacher's name?
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And so this was, you know, 13 years ago when we were primarily just running that after school or evening programming, and so I emailed this teacher and kind of explained that she seems to know what she's doing but she keeps bombing the tests and, and you know, low and behold, she started doing better.
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And it was just like making that connection and making that teacher maybe aware that I, as as an educator, I thought she knew the material.
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Something's going on and it was just the three of us kind of became a team together the student, her Algebra teacher and myself.
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And it was like in that moment it was almost like an epiphany epiphany to me, like we could be doing this more, like we.
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We are connectors, we're building relationships, we're looking at each individual student and figuring out what do they need.
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Maybe it is just like let's connect the dots here.
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Yes, so, and the teacher, just becoming aware, probably made some kind of accommodation.
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Yeah, it, just if it were maybe even as easy as no reason to be nervous about this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Are you distracted by right something, or whatever the case might be?
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right, yeah, yeah, and I don't.
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You know it's it's been a lot of years, I don't remember exactly, but I'm like it just was.
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It's it's not complicated and it doesn't have to be complicated, and just Getting a person whether it's one of our volunteer tutors or our staff in there To really see the kids and and really see the teachers too I mean, teachers are given so much on their plate and we Work to build that relationship too and they learn to trust us and, like you know, like let's work together to do what this kid needs.
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I was gonna jump into because I know we've talked a lot about the academic goals and the academic support we provide with students.
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But a lot of times we're just providing some social, emotional support for students.
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Sometimes they just need a break and so we can just be a safe space within the school day that they can come and just take a Break and have a snack and sit down and talk to somebody.
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And, as I think about that, that probably improves their academic performance just in and of itself.
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Yeah, just having that minute to breathe and relax and know that there's somebody there that you trust, you're in a safe place, to just catch your breath and regroup, and then they go back to class ready to learn.
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I.
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Think about that with.
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I have two grandsons and every now and then I'll be on duty to Be at their house when the bus gets there, and of course they come home and they, they need a break.
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Sure, they need something way to unwind and I'm thinking many of these kids probably don't have that space.
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Yeah, just yeah.
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Have calm and quiet and take a break, and think about that now in my own childhood how important that was and if that had been missing, how much a layer of stress that would have been.
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Yeah, I have a recent story and this is getting a little more serious and deep, but one of my high school Coordinators was just at the end of this past semester, at the end of December.
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She was at her high school and walking down the hall and she ran into a parent who happened to be there meeting with an Administrator about her son who was in our program the previous year and he had a really good sophomore year and he would kind of come into our room and a lot of times it was just for that.
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He just needed a moment.
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And then this now junior was we.
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You know, she never saw him, he, he didn't come into our room and he wasn't part of the program for the next year and, very sadly, he's dealing with a lot of mental health and had a suicide attempt.
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And so the mom was there trying to figure out how to get him back into school and what he needed, and she ran into our Coordinator there and they knew each other from the previous year and she's like, oh, you're still here, can he come?
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And she's like, yes, where has he been?
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And he just didn't.
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I think he asked his study hall teacher the first time if he could come down and early on in the year they were trying not to have too many passes in the hallway which you know at a high school you get those and then he just didn't ask again.
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So now he's gonna start coming again and it it's just like, yeah, we want to help him pass algebra because you need that to graduate, but that kid needs a spot to just take a deep breath during the day.